Sidney Walker Eyewitness Account

Sidney Walker Eyewitness Account

  • Place: Manchester
  • Role: Spectator
  • Occupation: Former Lieutenant

Saw the meeting at SPF. Saw no resistance made by the crowd. Never saw Hunt in company of other reformers (particularly Carlile). ‘Mr. Carlile’s trial had not then come on, and I must presume a man to be innocent until he is found guilty.’

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Sidney Walker, by Mr. Hunt—I am a Lieutenant in the Bengal Native Infantry. I have been from India one or two years. I was at Man­chester on the 16th of August last. My family reside there. It consists of my mother, a sister, and her family. I observed the processions com­ing in; they were perfectly peaceable. I went afterwards to the meeting; some of the processions I saw pass through Deansgate. I saw nothing in the course of the morning calculated to excite fears in the respectable peo­ple of the town. Neither my mother nor sister expressed alarm. I did not hear any express fears for the safety of the town. I saw the military on the field. I stood about 40 yards from Mr. Buxton's house, on the Deansgate side. Mr. Buxton's is at the side of St. Peter's Church. I did not see any violence committed either in the field or in the streets, in the course of the day, by the people. There were, however, two or three inclined to fight amongst themselves, but they were prevented by those about them. They said they would not have a riot created. Up to the arrival of the cavalry, I did not see anything like intimidation on the part of the people.

Cross-examined by Sergeant Hullock. —l am still in the service of the Company, but my leave is out, and I do not receive pay. I have a mind to retire, and am now a student of the Inner Temple. I was called to the meeting by notices on the walls. I did not see the Observer. I had come in from the country. I lived about two miles from town. My mother lives in town, about four or five hundred yards from St. Peter's Field. I am not a member of the Union, or any political society. I was told who the speakers would be. I knew that Mr. Hunt was to preside there. I did not know that Dr. Crompton, Mr. Carlile, or Mr. Pearson were to be there. I knew Mr. Carlile's shop. I knew at the time that he was under prosecution for blasphemous libels.

Mr. Hunt again objected to any inquiry being made about Mr. Carlile, who was not a defendant here.

Justice Bayley said, as he was one of those who were called to the meet­ing, the prosecutors were at liberty to show that he was under prosecution for blasphemy at the time.

Mr. Hunt thought it very hard to be made accountable for every act of Mr. Carlile's life.

The witness went on—I know Mr. Wooler, his shop is in Fleet-street; l have been in Mr. Carlile's shop; that is also in Fleet-street. I believe it is called “The Temple of Reason;” Office of “The Republican and Deist” is over the door. Never knew Mr. Hunt before the 16th, but I saw him at a meeting at the Crown and Anchor Tavern; it was upon occasion of the death of Sir Samuel Romilly; Sir Francis Burdett was in the chair; Mr. Hunt was there; many other public characters were there. (Here there was another objection raised, but after some conversation, the witness went on) I don’t know that Wooler or Carlile were there; I have not been much in the habit of attending the trials at Guildhall; I was not at Carlile's trial; Wooler is a publisher, I believe; I never saw Mr. Hunt at any other place than the Crown and Anchor; I never was at a public meeting before that of the 16th of August. The divisions marched in order, keeping a step, seven a breast. They did not march so regular as a regiment of sepoys. I can't say what number of persons were assembled; they were calculated at 100,000. The place was quite full. I heard Mr. Hunt’s address. I did not see the carriage in which Mr. Hunt was.

Re-examined. —I saw the persons assembled, but I can't say in what numbers. They were not in military order. If they had been, I might have guessed their numbers. In August last I had not heard that Mr. Carlile was convicted of any crime. Mr. Carlile's trial had not then come on, and I must presume a man to be innocent until he is found guilty. I had heard in August that Wooler was tried, but I don't know that he was convicted. I never saw you in company with either of them, Mr. Carlile I never saw in my life. I slept one night before the meeting at my mother's, the other at my sister's; two miles out of town. The people in the field had not the appearance of regular troops. I saw no large staves. The people did not appear to me ready to fight for Hunt if there should be occasion, for they had no arms.

By the Court. From seeing the divisions you could judge whether they had been drilled? I thought they might walk as well if they had not been drilled. I should not think, from their appearance, that they had been drilled. I saw some of them in the streets. I could tell, by hear­ing the approach of a body of men, whether they were regular troops or not. There was nothing of uniformity in their step. I did not observe that they were locked in walking. In the field the people pressed very close to the hustings. I think they were too close for offensive operations.

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