James Platt Eyewitness Account

James Platt Eyewitness Account

  • Place: Manchester
  • Role: Officer
  • Occupation: Police Constable

Attended SPF as Police Officer.

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James Platt examined by Sergeant Hullock - I am a police officer, and was in St. Peter’s area, on 16th of August. About twelve, I saw Dr. Healey bring up a number of people to the hustings. Witness then described the formation of the people around the hustings, and identified Healey and Bamford as being there.

On his cross-examination, he said the shout which hailed Mr. Hunt’s arrival appeared to be one of defiance rather than joy.

Mr. Hunt. - What is the price of a flimsy (a flash phrase for a forged note) now? -A. If you want them in the flash - why ten bobs (shillings). The prices vary a little according to the execution. The way I came to know forgeries was, that my father had some forged £5 notes paid him for fustian; he offered one at a grocer’s shop in Middleton, which subsequently proved to be bad, and they were returned; the five pound notes were returned by my father, and in return he got six or seven forged notes for £1 or £2 This so aggravated me that I determined to detect the passers . I went to the people (continued the witness) and by inveiglement I got into the secret, and obtained from them a £5 and £2 note, upon which I gave information to the Bank of England. I would do so again; 8s. was the price of a flimsy then; for a £5 I gave £2 16s. ;The man who gave them to me was committed, but not tried; it was this circumstance that introduced me to Mr. Nadin. By inveiglement I detected others since, and one of them was by my evidence hanged.

Q. What price did you receive for that? —I decline answering that question. I never gave false evidence. I have prevented many, and never appeared against one that was not nailed; I gave no evidence for forgeries at the last Lancaster Assizes. Nobody assaulted or insulted me on the field, nor did anyone else offend where I stood, though I am said to be a dealer in flimsies.

Dr. Healey exclaimed-with great warmth, that the witness said one thing here today, and another at the New Bayley. This the witness de­nied. He would not say whether he swore or not at the New Bayley that he saw Saxton on the hustings, between the hours of twelve and half past one o'clock.

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